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AIRPLANE CRASH OF GEE BEE RACER, 1931



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Author Béla Ságodi (3 months)
Control surface flutter is a more likely cause. It is theorized that the
gas cap struck the pilot and incapacitated him, causing a sudden upset in
pitch that led to uncontrolled flutter in the right aileron which imparted
undue stress on that wing, causing it to pitch up sharply and fail.

Author Dan Hudson (1 month)
Aileron flutter? The right wing failed about midspan. I always heard that
the skin came off the right wing fouling the lift but this video tells a
different story. 

Author dizzypilots1 (2 months)
that was one bad ass hot rod,everybody has an excuse,but none of these
wanna bees can call it true.flaps,caps,ass,hats,on and on 

Author airraptor (2 months)
My thoughts was that elevator flutter caused a sudden pitch nose down and
the quick reaction of the pilot caused a sudden pitch change and high AoA
caused the right wing to fail ending with the plane impacting the ground at
high speed.

Author Sealy571 (2 months)
Right wing came off.

Author Arne Husby (3 months)
Interesting film, but the music is unnecessary.

Author theroskyyyy (3 months)
Woow this is sad.....atleast i know he would have been dead by now of other
causes...but still, sad

Author theroskyyyy (3 months)
Woow this is sad.....atleast i know he would have been dead by now of other
causes...but still, sad

Author Jim Humphries (7 months)
Unstable in every direction.

Author DmaxHd (7 months)
Aileron flutter tore the wing apart , there was no pulling up visible

Author C Riley (8 months)
Wrong engine sound for this aircraft. 

Author Treetop64 (9 months)
Would have been just fine without the added on sound effects, which were a
bit over the top.

Author JohnSmith6875 (6 months)
Doolittle said this was easily the most dangerous airplane he ever flew.
Once he won the race with it, he flew it straight back to where he had
picked it up and said he would never fly it again. All the original Gee
Bee Racers were written off.

Author Obearons Muse (7 months)
There is a pull, you can see both wings thicken just before the right wing
folds. We can see more than the leading edge, the bottom of both wings
show for a split second, meaning a pull. He was descending, so he needed
to pull at some point. It seems clear to me that the speed, for which this
airplane was not designed, and the heavier engine, for which the airplane
was not designed, simply reached the load limit when Bayles nudged the
stick back to level off. 

Author Sam Moss (9 months)
That was my very first plastic model plane back in the late 50's boy does
this bring back memories.

Author Countdown70s (7 months)
GeeBee = creepiest scariest and most dangerous airplane I ever saw...you
would not get me into one at gunpoint.
Sad what happened to this Bayles fellow, the pre-amble brought him to life
with us too, there he is in the cockpit one minute, the next,
neeeeyow...splat..whoof..

Author Sam Moss (9 months)
Yeah he lost a wing his right one and it was all over. Don't know if the
spars went from tip to tip for strength.

Author William Reynolds (8 months)
That had to be caused by aileron flutter
R.I.P.

Author osp80 (4 months)
a lot of the problem with classic racers aside from being o the cutting
edge of aerodynamics was simply the less quality of materials then. they
took a sample of one of the engine blocks from a german silver arrow F1 car
from the 30's and determined it's alloy was comparable to alloys found in
common patio furniture today.

Author Michael Pederson (6 months)
Ya

Author M RAMIREZ (10 months)
RIP Brave Pilot

Author kh40yr (10 months)
You can see the right wing 1/2 / tip stand straight up,,then it disappears.
Clearly instant structural failure. Rip Brave pilot.

Author phil123711 (7 months)
Stupid bloody music.

Author jeff13151 (7 months)
I bet they're a bitch to fly with one wing.

Author altoonabeme (2 years)
The P-47 and other radial-engined aircraft had big cowls, but the P-40 with
its inline engine as well as the P-51 and P-38 with inlines had smaller
cowling around their engines.

Author Dean H (2 years)
@bigdodgeaus well back in the day the glass wasn't laminated, and accounts
of the crash verify the cap did go right thru the windscreen. but the
reason for the crash was the plane wasn't suited for very high speeds and
it went into an oscillation from turbulence at around 300 mph that shook it
apart

Author SomeGuyInSandy (1 year)
He was wearing a parachute. In those days they were slung in a package very
low behind the pilot. You can see it as the gets into the plane. Pilots in
those days used them as seat cushions as well.

Author boingkster (3 years)
@masmddds Yes, many radial engined planes were very successful in WWII; the
Grumman F6F, P-47 Thunderbolt and Focke Wulf 190 cheif amongst them.
Regardless, the reasons I mentioned were indeed among those given for the
H-1 being turned down for military use. In essence, it was too ground
breaking for the US military to consider its use.

Author Bobby Ingram (1 year)
Wears a tie and NO parachute. But the chute wouldn't have helped.

Author deemilieu (4 years)
the wings are small and so thin. you have to be going really fast to get
any lift

Author J.J. Topp (1 year)
This aircraft was/is known to develop severe wing flutter at high speeds
which can result in catastrophic failure of the wing spar(s).

Author cargecko007 (4 years)
@stunmunky im glad i cant understand it, if u freaks like this i dont want
to know why

Author 420Nitroman (2 years)
looked like the right wing folded up.

Author grandtheftautowwe (4 years)
Gee Bee's are EXTREMELY hard to fly

Author choofish (4 years)
Yes it was a great design but not stressed enough for the loads at the
speeds they were trying to coax from it. The wing tip clearly folded in the
video.

Author conn3r12 (4 years)
My grandpa is building a gee bee r1 and it will be the only one thats
flying and yess he willl be flying it. His name is harold forth check him
out at

Author George Anderson (1 year)
Some have suggested that the GEE BEE was not dangerous. It was and any
student of stability and control will be glad to show why the design is
inherently unstable. Jimmy Doolittle said the same later in his life. In
his memoirs. Suggesting that an aileron fluttered is possible but just
speculation. Clearly a wing came off. I can imagine it possible that pilot
incapacitation could have resulted in over G but no flight path change to
confirms this.

Author John Sanchez (1 year)
What really happened was the gas cap came loose, went through the canopy
and hit Scott in the head killing him instantly. The racer was out of
control before the wing ripped off.

Author strongbad73 (4 years)
@gooseneck12 dont know how u could have seen a little gas cap come off in
such bad film from so far away but man he didnt even have time to go
ohhshut!

Author banditsuz (2 years)
Great camera work.

Author homfencing (1 year)
Poor bastard never had a chance....at least it was quick.

Author william henry (2 years)
i read that only 3 people lived after flying this, Doolitlle, huges and
another i cant remember

Author nitrofumes (4 years)
My father always spoke of the Gee Bee.......he was born in1926. Man
breaking speed records....so noble !

Author WarlordATF (4 years)
@zvent1 There are really 2 schools of thought on this accident. Kermit
Weeks had testing done on his exact replica and it was shown to have
flutter issues above 240 mph. The other is based on Zantford Granville's
theory based on reviewing the film and the goggles and cap that was found.
Sadly no one can really say who is right or even if it was a combination of
both issues. In any event, it took a brave man to climb into these machines
and push the limits. Lowell Bayles was a great pilot, R.I.P.

Author Rex Reeb (2 years)
I think if you look closely youll see the horizontal stabilizer separate
from the airframe just prior to the violent pitch that tore the aircraft
apart. Probably aerodynamic flutter of the elevator tearing it from the
stab....its thought that the same thing happened to Galloping Ghost,
although it was the trim tab that was torn away causing the extrem pitch
trim change. The Gee Bee is so short coupled that any violent control input
at top speed will absolutly overstress the airframe. RIP

Author jetwaco (3 years)
@DoktorRick And you should read your history a tad bit more on which white
folks in the past were the most ignorant, ruthless, and criminal towards
Native Americans. The British for the most part were civil and fair to our
culture. The Americans, ruthless and cruel. Some of my hero`s is Tecumseh,
and his brother the Prophet. Another, Joeseph Brant (was educated in
England),(Brantford/Brant-town, is just a stones throw from me, as well as
Six Nations rez.). Another is John Norton.

Author usmctanks1 (3 years)
@ferdorski I disagree witht he wing spar theory, the DeHaviland Mosquito
had no problem pulling out of dives at over 5 g's and was pulling sometimes
greater g forces turning at altitude (main spar made of wood). The Gee
bee's were stressed to +9 G's so this acciden wast (as mentioned in other
posts) due to aileron flutter (which was determined by wind tunnel tests to
be quite high over 240mph, He was quoted saying it may in fact be able to
hit 300 mph in level flight as modified

Author Ben Weihrich (2 years)
I can see where the big cowl of the P40 came from!!!!!

Author Schluesselmensch (3 years)
@gooseneck12 A fairly well discounted theory. The cap could not accelerate
to any substantial velocity in that distance. As well, it would be in a
boundary layer which is slower air still. I've had a fairly large piece of
ice come off of the nose of an aircraft at 240-250mph and it only gathered
enough energy to put a small crack in quarter inch thick perspex. The
aircraft in the video suffers a catastrophic wing failure almost certainly
caused by flutter.

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